By: Brak
So, having read the article we can all be proud that we're informed. When does Joe Sixpack get it? Though this article focuses predominantly (and exhaustively, I might add -- great post saulgoodman!)...
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(I'm sorry)scheptech: I don't know. Mr. Haughey just told me to come in here and say that there was trouble in the government, that's all - I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition.[JARRING CHORD]...
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aghast.: on rereading i think you and delmoi are at least partly right, that i missed f. douglas' point. at the same time, i think that on the part of those in power there could be a real temptation to...
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Your paraphrase has befuddled me. How is the victim being blamed in the F. Douglas quote? I guess because he's saying that people are responsible for the ills that befall them because they don't...
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Because IMO blaming the powerless for the excesses and abuses of the powerful is one of the oldest rationalizations for tyranny going. Especially when the powerful control the largest, best-funded...
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From history. Not saying torture has always been an accepted official part of the program for every society but it has for some and has existed at some level in every society since forever. Well,...
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Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them. - F. Douglas Or to paraphrase: "Bitch had it...
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Andrew Greeley: 'Cheney really wants U.S. dictator'--...The White House, inspired by Vice President Dick Cheney, has argued that in time of great danger, the president has unlimited powers as commander...
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Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them. - F. Douglas Or to paraphrase: "Bitch had it...
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Oh, Mr. Sixpack's been getting his all along. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them. - F....
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So, having read the article we can all be proud that we're informed. When does Joe Sixpack get it?
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but probably more distasteful and surprising to Americans than anyone else if you're right, then it's really a shame, but you may have a point.
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would you even get such an idea? From history. Not saying torture has always been an accepted official part of the program for every society but it has for some and has existed at some level in every...
View ArticleBy: saulgoodman
I think regular folk around the world assume torture of some sort, and of whatever legal status, has always been part of how any power helps maintain its position - so nothing new here, speaking as a...
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Addington in recent years, believes that they are still fighting Watergate. "They're focussed on restoring the Nixon Presidency,"Addington felt strongly that America "should have stayed and won the...
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I'd disagree, scheptech. Unilateralism and Pre-emptive war have always been the hallmark of an Imperial Power, but torture -- that's skirting, if not crossing, the line of tyrrany. I think regular folk...
View ArticleBy: jonp72
I thought Libby was Cheney's Cheney! No, Libby was Cheney's Cheney's Cheney on the label label label....
View ArticleBy: clevershark
scheptechwrites"Well ok this, pre-emptive war, and Mr Bush's unilateralism in general." You can't seriously think that those three things are unrelated, can you?
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So when do we hold those two accountable for employing so many amoral assholes? on your marks... get set... GO!
View ArticleBy: LooseFilter
sometimes when you look under rocks, all sorts of bugs scurry out. I think the larger point is that everyone in the administration serves at the leisure of Bush and/or Cheney. So when do we hold those...
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no one person can control the government to that extent read a little more closely, longbaugh. i think the point here is completely consistent with what you say--no one person was responsible for the...
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In those halcyon days immediately following 9/11, and in the years leading up to them, make no mistake--Republicans like Rove, Norquist, Cheney, and Abramoff literally thought that their party was...
View ArticleBy: longbaugh
When do we get to the real bad guys, the gnomes of Zurich? Or the Jews. I can never remember who it is. Erm... Templars? Help me out here someone. Seriously though - no one person can control the...
View ArticleBy: chimaera
I'd disagree, scheptech. Unilateralism and Pre-emptive war have always been the hallmark of an Imperial Power, but torture -- that's skirting, if not crossing, the line of tyrrany. Perhaps the...
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he masses will be calling for the head of Cheney's assistant's secretary's masseuse's nanny's rabbi's lawyer's cousin. well, if he had something to do with it, too, then why not? sometimes when you...
View ArticleBy: Terminal Verbosity
Hydra indeed. A new fall guy comes out of that administration every few months. By 2008, the masses will be calling for the head of Cheney's assistant's secretary's masseuse's nanny's rabbi's lawyer's...
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As for the Administration's legal defense of torture, which Addington played a central role in formulating, Schlesinger said, "No position taken has done more damage to the American reputation in the...
View ArticleBy: sourbrew
what are thoserussian dolls where you open one and find another inside? They are like that but really fucking evil and scary. No dice on a gis for a good match of something frightening but nested...
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Cheney's Cheney and the Unitary Executive Theory. An excellent article from the New Yorker on the mysterious forces at work behind the Bush administration's expansion of executive powers.
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